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Old 10-31-2010, 09:46 PM
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Ah, the business case as to whether we should do it...

To me, it's either a minimal thing -- basic re-write, minimal photography and illustration costs (I think we can keep it well below $200K) -- or a much larger thing where TGM message and methodologies are the core of a larger TGM "empire"...

That last is approaching it strictly as a growth business -- how would I grow it into something to support a small company. The first would be how to make money as more of a cottage industry to me at least.
I consider 200K would be a waste of time. The reality is closer to 2,000.00 per page and 400 pages. $800,000.00 plus 75K per language (with page layout changes) before printing and distribution. Two year project. Management %?.

1,000,000 copies sold, at $25.00 Retail per copy. 2 years. 12 Languages.

Anybody got an extra 3.5 Mil. First ya gotta buy the Rights.

Put all video references on the Web with a dedicated site and forum. Extra 1 mil. Seminar staff, travel expenses, bla, bla bla.
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:30 PM
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I consider 200K would be a waste of time. The reality is closer to 2,000.00 per page and 400 pages. $800,000.00 plus 75K per language (with page layout changes) before printing and distribution. Two year project. Management %?.

1,000,000 copies sold, at $25.00 Retail per copy. 2 years. 12 Languages.

Anybody got an extra 3.5 Mil. First ya gotta buy the Rights.

Put all video references on the Web with a dedicated site and forum. Extra 1 mil. Seminar staff, travel expenses, bla, bla bla.
Can't get there from here, so best option is to continue to use the old photos and work on cleaning up the wording. I'm not from the publishing industry so I can't dispute the cost factors though it seems high to me.

So, accepting the high costs as a given...as you say, forget the traditional print approach.

We build it on the web with a wikipedia approach. Sections are put up and hyperlinked. Members submit pictures and videos, moderators are responsible to allow or prune, etc. To some degree, kind of like these forums! We also leverage a model used in academia -- peer review.

Hard to monetize -- probably looking at an advertising revenue stream with maybe a small annual subscription to encourage broad acceptance. Other revenue streams from DVD's, training aids, certified centers, etc. That is, assuming we are looking to make money on this versus just spread the word.
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I consider 200K would be a waste of time. The reality is closer to 2,000.00 per page and 400 pages. $800,000.00 plus 75K per language (with page layout changes) before printing and distribution. Two year project. Management %?.

1,000,000 copies sold, at $25.00 Retail per copy. 2 years. 12 Languages.

Anybody got an extra 3.5 Mil. First ya gotta buy the Rights.

Put all video references on the Web with a dedicated site and forum. Extra 1 mil. Seminar staff, travel expenses, bla, bla bla.
From the movie, Dumb and Dumber:

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...8-289361102142



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Old 10-31-2010, 10:33 PM
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From the movie, Dumb and Dumber:


http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...8-289361102142


Ok. So your saying 3.5 mil is a deposit. I can understand that. I just needed the wake-up call.
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Ha!

One of those, "if you want to make a small fortune with TGM, start with a large one..." kind of things?
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Out of curiosity, anybody know what the rights to the book are considered to be worth?
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Two points

1. Yoda sure likes his movies .....man he's good. "Frankly Brian , I dont give a damn"

2. Anyone who has ever attempted to re write Homer , even in small manner, knows how difficult it can be. You can only expand , you can not simplify, reduce. It is fully reduced to put it bluntly. Try it and see if Im wrong. And the expansion is endless. A simplified, plane language version of the book would be with out end. Upon completion there would be no ink left in the world. Ink would be worth more than oil, gold or diamonds. Al Gore would do a movie on ink and claim he knew Homer back in the 80's.

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Two points

1. Yoda sure likes his movies .....man he's good. "Frankly Brian , I dont give a damn"

2. Anyone who has ever attempted to re write Homer , even in small manner, knows how difficult it can be. You can only expand , you can not simplify, reduce. It is fully reduced to put it bluntly. Try it and see if Im wrong. And the expansion is endless. A simplified, plane language version of the book would be with out end. Upon completion there would be no ink left in the world. Ink would be worth more than oil, gold or diamonds. Al Gore would do a movie on ink and claim he knew Homer back in the 80's.
Freudian slip? "Plane" language...
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Hah, yes. Pure Freudian. No pun intended.

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Two points

1. Yoda sure likes his movies .....man he's good. "Frankly Brian , I dont give a damn"

2. Anyone who has ever attempted to re write Homer , even in small manner, knows how difficult it can be. You can only expand , you can not simplify, reduce. It is fully reduced to put it bluntly. Try it and see if Im wrong. And the expansion is endless. A simplified, plane language version of the book would be with out end. Upon completion there would be no ink left in the world. Ink would be worth more than oil, gold or diamonds. Al Gore would do a movie on ink and claim he knew Homer back in the 80's.
The book IS very dense, very to the point. I could almost see the expansion as "chapter and verse" with expert commentary. Again, I have this sort of Biblical translation idea in my head. Like Homer's work is in King James and I'm looking for an NIV or New American Standard language version. For those really familiar, I'm thinking Life Application Bible with the verses at the top of the page and expanded commentary and diagrams at the bottom.

As said earlier, this is probably better suited to some type of wiki hyperlinking. The book itself was meant to be more reference and "look up" oriented if I understand correctly.

Just think, we'll all have our smart phones out on every shot to look up the right pattern for that particular shot!
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