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Old 07-28-2008, 04:36 PM
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Rumor has it that MikeO is moving to the East Coast soon. Its making a lot more sense now. Bigger backyard needed and closer to "the prize". Bucket has been very quiet here lately. Is he changing identity?
He is going through an identity change but I really thought that was too personal - to be discussed on the forum. Bagger, due to how busy he is - could you access his personal profile and update his interests from just BBQ to "BBQ, Goats, and Threadjacking"- I think that for new forum members coming on to the site- that might be helpful information.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:54 AM
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He is going through an identity change but I really thought that was too personal - to be discussed on the forum. Bagger, due to how busy he is - could you access his personal profile and update his interests from just BBQ to "BBQ, Goats, and Threadjacking"- I think that for new forum members coming on to the site- that might be helpful information.
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I think the "thread" part is a bit too specific . . . If you take that part away . . . we're probably good.

Also . . . do you mean BBQ'd goat or BBQ & goats? Just want to be sure that our selected language communicates the intended message with precision . . . . the precision is certainly in the details.

By the way . . . did that sore on your lip clear up?
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
I think the "thread" part is a bit too specific . . . If you take that part away . . . we're probably good.

Also . . . do you mean BBQ'd goat or BBQ & goats? Just want to be sure that our selected language communicates the intended message with precision . . . . the precision is certainly in the details.

By the way . . . did that sore on your lip clear up?
The doctor said it was contagious and therefore he recommended that you see your doctor also.
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The doctor said it was contagious and therefore he recommended that you see your doctor also.
Should we keep this up since Henny is ignoring your retarded question?
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Should we keep this up since Henny is ignoring your retarded question?
Probably- but if you were a real man - you'd answer the QUESTION! Wasn't that your post to me awhile back "Just answer the question moron!" Back atcha! At the very least you'd have at least one course management tidbit that you could give up!?
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Been reading on how Jack Nicklaus the ultimate golf tactician played shots according to the "percentages" and disected golf courses.

He said that he would try to aim left of the pin and cut the ball mostly into the pin in order to have the most margin for error.

How much "cut" do you reckon he played for? 5 yards? 10? 15?

He wrote the book in the 70's and 80's so do you think he would still advise this type of strategy? Or was it because the "old" ball curved more? Does anybody other than Corey Pavin and Tiger play like this anymore?
Without reading any more of the posts, I'll say Bubba Watson likes to work the ball. I've heard Tiger plays practice rounds with him just to watch his shot making.
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Oops! I didn't realize that this thread had degenerated into a weinerfest...
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike O View Post
Probably- but if you were a real man - you'd answer the QUESTION! Wasn't that your post to me awhile back "Just answer the question moron!" Back atcha! At the very least you'd have at least one course management tidbit that you could give up!?
First of all let's make sure that everyone who hasn't met me understands . . . I am in NO WAY a "real man." I am a little yellow spined girly man (in addition to being slightly obese and looking like an orangutan with a receeding hair line and poor spelling).

BUT . . . in my conversations with Henny . . . paraphrasing since he has you on terminal ignore . . . . "Most pros don't curve it much. The just get the number and fly it there on most courses. They hit their shot." But on some courses they do curve it . . . depends on the course. Now Henny Weener may come back and correct my ass but I remember us having that discussion.

That whole hand to glove deal . . . is curving the ball so it never leaves the center of the fairway . . . . moves right down the middle the whole way according to Henny.

And lets keep my tidbit outta this.
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Hogan vs. Tiger

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Originally Posted by Mathew
Unfortunately Darruis, YOU ARE WRONG.

Ok lets just go along with these assumptions just for now even though they are heavily weighted towards your arguement.



You don't just divide the driving distance (yards) by the fairway with the half of the fairways width(yards) and expect to find anything useful. All you have found is the difference between a fifteenth of their driving distance - you could of just subtracted their driving distances together and divided by 15 and you would of come up with the same answer....an answer which isn't much use for anyone. It doesn't say much about your maths skills or those of GPStyles who seems to think your akin to Albert Einstein.

The correct differences are these.... I've omitted the sums because you won't understand them anyhow...

Woods hitting 300 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 5.73197 degrees margin for error.

Hogan hitting 250 yards onto a 30 yard fairway has 6.87963 degrees margin for error.

So hogan at 80% FIR having to be 83.4% less accurate than Woods would only hit the fairway 66% of the time at 300 yards.



So where you plucked this number from I do not know - perhaps you clicked your heels together three times.

The pure maths is pointless to the debate and anyhow the maths becomes more in Tigers favour when you increase the fairway from the super tight hypothetical width you set. I could think of plenty of arguements that when added up make the maths arguement sound silly. It would be like a game of Jenga but its your arguement falling after each one of these blocks (variables you have not accounted for) and you couldn't even set the game properly up to begin with because you suck at Maths.

My feeling is that Wood's golf stroke is better than Hogans... You just wanted to try and own me - You tried and you failed... Try harder next time.

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Matthew,

I don't dispute your math. Longer shots on the same angle off line miss the target by more distance. Simple right? Watch the Hogan vs. Snead Shell match at Houston CC. Balls are not just catching the fairway. Hogan is curving the ball so it stays in the center of the fairway as the hole doglegs. "Fit to fairway like hand to glove." This where math gets lost. If the ball is not deflected from the target line, the distance does not factor.


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Henny or anyone else,
I'd like to hear more about working the ball - Both Ways - in regards to course management. How many of the PGA tour pros work the ball both ways - as a particular hole requires? What are some of the common situations or tips for when to work the ball, etc?

Also, Here's my quiz question: When would you NOT want a ball curving in the same direction as the dogleg - "Fit to fairway like hand to glove"?
Mike O,

Sorry about the delay. There might be a situation with a sloping fairway or something like that.

Most pros would like to think that they curve it both ways at will, but few of them have the control to consistantly pull off the shots. Basically, they play their standard shot and curve it less when they want to "work it the other way."

Many pros do work the ball with or against the wind with mid irons. They often change the trajectory.

My advice would be to play the shape you are most comfortable with and adjust your aim. Personally, I like to draw the ball, but I do have a standard cut tee shot when there are trees too close on the right.

Early time tomorrow, off to bed.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:03 AM
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Early time tomorrow, off to bed.
That would be at 7:23 a.m. on John Riegger's bag at the Legends Reno-Tahoe Open http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r472/, playing with 2-time U.S. Open winner Lee Janzen and Charles Warren. Good luck, Henny and John!
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